Former U.S. Air Force Pararescueman and CIA officer Nic McKinley — a Harvard grad dubbed "the real Jack Ryan" for his operational background across spec ops and intelligence work — breaks down how his 11 years as a PJ and later role as country chief of a special CIA unit exposed him to the realities of child trafficking and illicit markets, work that eventually became the foundation for DeliverFund, the nonprofit he now runs that arms law enforcement with technology, actionable intelligence, training, and data-driven tools to fight human trafficking. We dig into how smartphones and gaming platforms turned into a direct pipeline connecting predators to kids, why the policy fixes are obvious but the people with the power to enact them won't touch it, and what it actually takes to hunt a human trafficker for a living.

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Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:52 - TEAM DOG Ad
00:02:29 - Guest Introduction
00:03:21 - Favorite Book
00:06:12 - Favorite Quote
00:08:39 - EDC Loadout
00:12:13 - Childhood Rock Climbing
00:14:49 - Adoption Story
00:19:46 - Birth Parents
00:20:48 - Other Sports
00:21:40 - Navy Seals Movie
00:27:07 - Discovering Pararescue
00:32:03 - Selection Expectations
00:36:05 - Class Attrition
00:38:18 - Dive School
00:43:02 - First Duty Station
00:47:16 - Iran Hostage Rumors
00:51:56 - Deployment Count
00:52:03 - 9/11 Moment
00:57:02 - Cunningham's Death
00:59:50 - QUINCE Ad
01:02:08 - Most Memorable Rescues
01:03:00 - Broken Leg Carry
01:10:50 - Cliff Rescue Story
01:21:11 - Leaving For CIA
01:25:36 - CIA Application Process
01:29:05 - Vetting Begins
01:33:45 - Shooting Standards
01:39:41 - Combatives Training
01:40:23 - HELIX Ad
01:44:19 - Paramilitary Explained
01:49:21 - First CIA Assignment
01:53:02 - Comms Role
02:00:12 - BUBS Ad
02:03:54 - High Speed Chase
02:16:45 - Working With KAG
02:19:15 - Career Path Overview
02:36:37 - Becoming Team Leader
02:39:04 - First Trafficking Exposure
02:43:45 - Hostage Working Group
02:46:55 - Founding Deliver Fund
03:02:46 - Roblox Controversy
03:16:14 - How Grooming Works
03:19:40 - Sarah's Story
03:24:56 - What You Can Do
03:26:05 - Burner Phone Loophole
03:44:52 - Market Disruption Economics
03:47:23 - ID Verification Idea
03:56:29 - What's The Fix
04:02:04 - Closing Thoughts

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